Diet Pills that Work??Sort: Oldest first | Newest first Showing 51-64 of 64 posts in this discussion In reply to your post on Sept. 10, 2010 7:20 AM PDT Last edited by the author 15 hours ago bothellbuyer says: I have to make one statement since the world of fishery science pays my mortgage: Do you mean omega 3 fatty acids? Are you equating the nutritional value/safety of Asian farmed fish/seafoods reared in highly polluted waters and fed highly polluted foods with a fresh wild-caught Copper River sockeye fillet? Infomercials....gag....I prefer real data based on real science (shrug). And yes, I use Tonalin CLA. CLA = conjugated linoleic acid (a fatty acid derived from safflower oil). I wouldn't consider an 'official' study to be one done on 34 people (laughing). There are currently clinical trials in progress designed to confirm'/disprove the effects of Tonalin CLA on a human model. Can you say the same for your "leptin" products? Your post: Sept. 10, 2010 8:35 AM PDT wmu-mart says: What I day is there is so much junk science out there , so you be the judge. Final one You do question my choices and that is fine. Same time you take some more than questionable product and you pollute your body?? Maybe you are actually poisoning yourself. I am so confused. When I used to work out 80% of my time was focus on abs and stomach muscles. I did have 6 packs at age 36, and now at 50 I am closer and closer back to same body. The most amazing part it was totally unexpected, and it is a great surprise. I did see all of sudden, my stomach got flat from size 44-46 to 34-35. Now I feel the motivation comes back and I started light workout. It will take some time same time anyone whom had a spare tire knows how hard it is to get that out. I used Green coffee 800 Leptin by Wmumart, and also slimming massaging cream and Gel Leptin by Wmumart. The changes were rapid and so visible that many of my friends started to use this herbal miracle product. I have to admit that more than few hundred men I meet here in Hong Kong got flat bellies. I do see also my legs do not have the liquid which is common for people whit thyroid problem. And in general my so hated fat is gone and my skin is perfectly tight, no stretch marks or any other signs that I was 125 pounds over my weight.. Bes6 of all I did not have to diet, I do eat all my favorite foods, milk, and my cholesterol, sugar and all other indicators are best since I was 38. Miracles do happen, when you loose all that sludge, the cancer of your life which fat is the energy will come back and live is really awesome. Peter What I day is there is so much junk science out there , so you be the judge. Final one You do question my choices and that is fine. Same time you take some more than questionable product and you pollute your body?? Maybe you are actually poisoning yourself. I am so confused. I did kind of agree with your careful approach to the subject of weight loss products, and now, woo, sorry your credibility is below zero. The difference between you and me is I am totally honest and sincere. You have an agenda. When I became a father, my preacher told me , remember it does not matter how great your speech is , it is all about what they see, feel, and observe. I can tell you are a victim of the system, the worst is by choice. Good luck\ I will stick to my product because it works, and there is no study in this universe which can prove me wrong. Love to all, Peter Slimming Green Coffee 800 Original Leptin Wmumart Best Price Guaranteed Posted on Sept. 10, 2010 9:07 AM PDT Last edited by the author 14 hours ago bothellbuyer says: There IS evidence supporting the use of Tonalin CLA to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. I chose to use this product at this time after careful research into it's potential side effects and contraindications using a number of medical science resources and under the supervision of a team of health care professionals (shrug). But I admit that NO infomercials were involved (laughing). After over 40 years of studying and working in the field of science, I can make some headway at eliminating the junk and concentrating on useful data points. edited to add: http://www.tonalin.com/content/view/23/38/lang,uk/ Here is a link that summarizes the results of some of the numerous clinical trials studying the safety and effectiveness of Tonalin CLA You replied with a later post Permalink | Report abuse | Ignore this customer 0 of 1 people think this post adds to the discussion. Do you?   Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Sept. 10, 2010 9:36 AM PDT wmu-mart says: yes go ahead get some CLA , after all you know it will not work p In reply to your post on Sept. 10, 2010 9:45 AM PDT bothellbuyer says: oops, wmu-mart - your agenda is showing (laughing....) You replied with a later post Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Sept. 10, 2010 10:01 AM PDT wmu-mart says: There IS evidence supporting the use of Tonalin CLA to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. I ch And where can I find that???????? but there is evidance at Wikipisdia which say you are a a lier. Thirty four intervention studies were conducted using CLA in humans investigate the effects of CLA to reduce body fat, especially abdominal fat. The effect of CLA on fat mass is so small; therefore, it is not the answer to the prevalence of obesity add to this all kind of side effects and what are you trying to acopmlish here??? in body fat was achieved with a daily dose of 3.4g.[30] [edit] Possible adverse effects of CLA in humans There are concerns that the use of CLA supplements by overweight people may tend to cause or to aggravate insulin resistance, which may increase their risk of developing diabetes.[8] Most supplements contain mixtures of two CLA isomers: the cis-9, trans-11 isomer (the predominant CLA isomer in milk and beef) as well as the trans-10, c This is nothing more or less but poision P Your post: Sept. 10, 2010 10:03 AM PDT wmu-mart says: You did admit that you would anything for your sponsors, well I am independent and I do not accept thais kond of behavior in my life. Stay the course , lie to people and we will see how far can you get p Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Sept. 10, 2010 10:07 AM PDT wmu-mart says: yes I always show who and why says what he says I do fight dishonest stamenst and propaganda. You are claiming scientific reaserch and than you take some pills which most definetly harm you?? This is nuts, p Posted on Sept. 10, 2010 10:37 AM PDT Last edited by the author 10 hours ago bothellbuyer says: No serious science student uses Wikipedia (if that's what you meant) as the source of information. I'll tend to rely on peer-reviewed publications like the one below: http://www.tonalin.com/files/CLAstudy4.pdf Obviously, you prefer to use a product with ingredients you can't even google up. I'll stick with something that is well researched, has proven positive effects as far as fat reduction are concerned, and has proven to have minimal side effects (shrug). And I don't sell the product and never will (laughing). You just replied with a later post In reply to your post on Sept. 10, 2010 1:59 PM PDT slw says: wmu-mart: I usually just ignore you because you are so full of hot air and insults, but you probably should know that Wikipedia is about as far from factual as it gets. ANYONE can edit an entry on the site. I sometimes use it for simple definitions, but nobody in their right mind would use it for anything scientific. You replied with a later post Permalink | Report abuse | Ignore this customer 1 of 1 people think this post adds to the discussion. Do you? In reply to an earlier post on Sept. 10, 2010 4:39 PM PDT tranquil says: WEB MD does not recommend CLA http://www.webmd.com/news/20060310/study-cla-doesnt-keep-pounds-off Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Sept. 11, 2010 12:12 AM PDT wmu-mart says: I do agree with you about wiki. I just quote that because they do list about 50 references below this comment. My point is simple, be honest. Do not hide your real intentions. If you have some great personal experience share with me and others. I do believe my offer is same. I truly apologize if I did ever insult you. If I make false statements or false presentations, just tell me when and what. Give me exact info I will correct at once. b made a lot of dishonest statements, and basically discredit all his prior conversations. At least I see this way. Now we did find out that he laid about web MD.  1 new post since your last visitYour post, in reply to an earlier post on Sept. 11, 2010 12:17 AM PDT wmu-mart says: Did you really read what you post as a link? Well you are very clams y. This actually support my point. CLA is a total waste of money and may do more harm than help. Changes in body composition were not related to diet and/or training. In conclusion, this study shows that CLA supplementation for 24 mo in healthy, overweight adults was well tolerated. It confirms also that CLA decreases BFM in overweight humans, and may help maintain initial reductions in BFM and weight in the long term. J. Nutr. 135: 778-784, 2005. This is actually funny. |
Saturday, 11 September 2010
CLA another fraud in weight loss
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